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Old 22nd Apr 08, 06:35 AM
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I'll go along with most of the advice dished out here. My secret weapon for shedding my initial load was setting the treadmill on maximum gradient and walking as fast as I could without breaking into a jog (that way, it saves the knees). Alternatively you need to find a large hill and thumb a lift down each time (going down again does all the damage to the knees you avoided on the way up )
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I inform my clients that it's not what they weigh or how they look but how they feel.
Really? I agree the BMI scale doesn't account for athletes or people with a large muscle mass (I believe the BMI scale renders Johnny Wilkinson Obese?) - but I'd say there were plenty of medical indicators of health that are far more accurate than going on how the person feels... Especially concerning people who just don't see themselves as being 'that fat'.
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My OH is classed as mega obese, but there is no fat on him, just 20 years of weight training.
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Really? .
Yes, really
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Without wanting to sound argumentative, but you would honestly advise the likes of Johnny Vegas (to use him as a well known example) that's he's fine and dandy because he loves life and feels good?

Personally I'd tell him his lifestyle is killing him.
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Without wanting to sound argumentative, but you would honestly advise the likes of Johnny Vegas (to use him as a well known example) that's he's fine and dandy because he loves life and feels good?

Personally I'd tell him his lifestyle is killing him.
But does he feel good? A consultation would identify his feelings. I am sure that he would admit to any ill feelings or concerns. I think Johnny would be the first to admit that his lifestyle is, indeed killing him:eek: If he didn’t he would only be fooling himself. Someone who feels good and is happy but is overweight is easily motivated, using the feel good factor, to achieve the goal of ideal weight. However, like BMI, “ideal weight” is not an exact science.

On a personal note I am 2st overweight. I can swim 3km+ frontcrawl a session, run non-stop for 60 minutes and I cycle an average of 8 to 10 miles five day a week! My GP is of the same opinion that, as long as I feel good and can do the minimum recommended daily exercise, with no problem my couple of stone excess is of no great concern.


I feel fantastic
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My OH is classed as mega obese, but there is no fat on him, just 20 years of weight training.
Would he pass the other test, which is a waist measurement?

"For those wanting to measure their waist circumference, increased risk for the over 18s occurs in men whose waist circumference is 94 cm/37 inches or over, and in women whose waists are 80 cm/32 inches or more. The risk is significantly increased at 102 cm/40 inches for men and 88 cm/35 inches for women." That seems quite evil to me lol, a lot of people would perhaps fail that.

I was just wondering if this was inaccurate for weight trainers too? Or whether that's a more accurate test. http://www.channel4.com/health/micro.../ove_kids.html
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Would he pass the other test, which is a waist measurement?

"For those wanting to measure their waist circumference, increased risk for the over 18s occurs in men whose waist circumference is 94 cm/37 inches or over, and in women whose waists are 80 cm/32 inches or more. The risk is significantly increased at 102 cm/40 inches for men and 88 cm/35 inches for women." That seems quite evil to me lol, a lot of people would perhaps fail that.

I was just wondering if this was inaccurate for weight trainers too? Or whether that's a more accurate test. http://www.channel4.com/health/micro.../ove_kids.html
Interesting I'll give it a go
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Without wanting to sound argumentative, but you would honestly advise the likes of Johnny Vegas (to use him as a well known example) that's he's fine and dandy because he loves life and feels good?

Personally I'd tell him his lifestyle is killing him.
He does look like a slob
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Without wanting to sound argumentative, but you would honestly advise the likes of Johnny Vegas (to use him as a well known example) that's he's fine and dandy because he loves life and feels good?

Personally I'd tell him his lifestyle is killing him.
He'd tell you "Thank God For That"

All the advice I've had here has been brilliant. I am running ....belay that, trotting at present. Though I felt good enough to whack out some quick miles ce matin. Knees feel good, but the brain has been calling me for a prat ever since. I shall turn his volume down but make sure his comments are minuted. I'm enjoying it. Actually the worst thing is I cut my left big toe nail a tad close and in my newNew Balance shoes ( Not so good as they used to was...Chris Brasher would have a fit), with a firm toe box, I made it sore.....silly Bear
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