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Old 15th May 17, 02:34 PM
Cerianna Cerianna is offline
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Going to start running, some questions!

Hello, everyone, I am new to this forum, just registered. I came here to get some answers and hopefully some moral support for the running journey I'm about to embark upon.

Firstly some facts about myself...

I'm 26 years old, 5"2 (or 158cm) and weigh 87kg (or 191 lbs/13.6 stone). I have been inactive for the last few years of my life, college and uni are pretty sedentary and I have not joined in on any sports or activities during my time in education. I still have one more year of university to go, but I have decided to turn a leaf and start getting active.

Whilst yes, the weight loss potential of running does appeal to me it is not the main reason I have decided to pick up running. I want to reach a level of fitness where I am not constantly out of breath after climbing one flight of uni stairs. My current fitness level is just plain bad, I'm definitely not in denial about it.

In order to help me start this running journey, I purchased a treadmill (a NordicTrack 220i) which will enable me to run at home without feeling like a complete idiot. Maybe if I loose some weight and stop looking like some kind of baby hippo when I run I'll consider running outside lol!

I plan on keeping a running diary either on here or in a notebook at home to document how I felt about each running session and how hard it was etc. The idea behind this is that hopefully by filling up pages in a book (or writing short progress posts) I will be able to look back and see progress (even if it's slight) and that will motivate me to keep going.

Now, on to the questions! My main one that I have atm is: What is the difference between running and jogging? Are they one and the same?

I tried jogging with my dog in the park and I lasted all of 1 min before I was completely exhausted. I couldn't imagine running that same time frame, think I would die!

Another question I have is: Approximately how long time (if I do a 20min run/jog/walk every morning) will it take for me to reach a level of fitness to be able to constantly run for 10mins? I fully expect it to be a slow process but it would be nice knowing some kind of general time frame.

I can't think of any more questions at the moment, but any advice, guidance or tips you guys have would be most welcome!
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Old 15th May 17, 04:49 PM
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In order to help me start this running journey, I purchased a treadmill (a NordicTrack 220i) which will enable me to run at home without feeling like a complete idiot. Maybe if I loose some weight and stop looking like some kind of baby hippo when I run I'll consider running outside lol!
Running on a treadmill is not the same as running outside. You can do it, but you'd be much better off if you did at least some of your running outside. Preferably all of it.

Everyone feels self conscious to start with, but that is really all in your head. With the couch 2 5K groups I've helped there have been numerous people who are in a similar boat to you. If they can do it, so can you.

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I plan on keeping a running diary either on here or in a notebook at home to document how I felt about each running session and how hard it was etc. The idea behind this is that hopefully by filling up pages in a book (or writing short progress posts) I will be able to look back and see progress (even if it's slight) and that will motivate me to keep going.
Most people use Strava or something similar for that.

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Now, on to the questions! My main one that I have atm is: What is the difference between running and jogging? Are they one and the same?

I tried jogging with my dog in the park and I lasted all of 1 min before I was completely exhausted. I couldn't imagine running that same time frame, think I would die!
That is a difficult question. Running and jogging are not the same thing and calling a runner a jogger is pretty offensive.

I think the easiest answer is if you think you're a runner, then you are a runner. If you want a better answer than that then google it and you'll find many arguments and as many opinions as people

Running has nothing whatsoever to do with how fast you are moving. It's how you're moving and the effort you're putting in. My normal walking pace is faster than some people can run, but if I was putting in the same effort as them I'd be running a lot faster. The only difference is what their bodies will let them do.

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Another question I have is: Approximately how long time (if I do a 20min run/jog/walk every morning) will it take for me to reach a level of fitness to be able to constantly run for 10mins? I fully expect it to be a slow process but it would be nice knowing some kind of general time frame.
That would be a bad way to do it. Use the Couch 2 5K plan instead; that will get you from nothing to running 5km in around 9 weeks. There's an app somewhere as well.

It won't be easy and at times you'll find it hard and think you can't do it. But injuries aside that's all in your head. You will find it much easier if you do it with a group. Ask your local running club if they do a couch 2 5K group or know of one in your area.

Also, look up your local park run and go and do that once you reach the end of the C25K plan. In fact, if you want to feel inspired then go along and watch next Saturday. I think you'll be surprised at the vast difference in size, shape and speed.
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Old 15th May 17, 04:50 PM
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jogging = very, very easy running
maybe you will be able to run 10 min before official summer
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Old 15th May 17, 04:57 PM
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Great start that you want to get into running. I will give you my slant on things as I have been "running " about 2 1/2 years. There are far more experienced people on here so this is my opinion. Running is running whether its slow running or fast running and everything in between. The best way for you to start is get the C25K app and that will enable you to run for about 30 mins non sop in about 8-9weeks. It is a tough but very rewarding experience. At the end you get a real sense of self achievement. see thread on C25K. its a great read. Good also that you have a treadmill but that could get very boring looking at a wall. Get yourself outside and run in parks, through woods along the seafront its great. I assure you people do not point and laugh. I was apprehensive before I started thinking people would point and laugh at this middle aged bloke with chicken legs and a beer belly, but noone did laugh. Keep a running blog or diary but IMO it doesnt get any easier you just get faster and can run longer. Best of luck CAC.
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Old 15th May 17, 07:35 PM
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Whilst yes, the weight loss potential of running does appeal to me it is not the main reason I have decided to pick up running. I want to reach a level of fitness where I am not constantly out of breath after climbing one flight of uni stairs.
Don't forget get about your diet, too. Running should be complementary to that. You mention the idea of keeping a running diary, have one for your calorie intake as well. Assuming you have a smartphone, you can use a dedicated app such as MyFitnessPal for that..

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which will enable me to run at home without feeling like a complete idiot. Maybe if I loose some weight and stop looking like some kind of baby hippo when I run I'll consider running outside lol!
Well, believe me, no-one pays attention to that.. don't let any of that discourage you, when you go out and see/meet a fellow runner, they are one of the gang and may take a bow. If you like the outdoors, go for it.. but then you just bought a treadmill ;-)

Good luck!

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Old 16th May 17, 02:10 PM
Cerianna Cerianna is offline
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Thanks for all the replies guys!

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Don't forget get about your diet, too. Running should be complementary to that. You mention the idea of keeping a running diary, have one for your calorie intake as well. Assuming you have a smartphone, you can use a dedicated app such as MyFitnessPal for that..
I already do that! My goal on myfitnesspal is 1400 calories (usually goes up to 1600 after exercise throughout the day!

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Well, believe me, no-one pays attention to that.. don't let any of that discourage you, when you go out and see/meet a fellow runner, they are one of the gang and may take a bow. If you like the outdoors, go for it.. but then you just bought a treadmill ;-)
You are probably right that nobody pays attention lol, but regardless I bought a treadmill so I could do it from the comfort of my own home and even naked if i so wanted I do take my dog out on walks every day so maybe once I get a bit more fit I can think about running a bit in Sutton park, but as it is I manage to "jog" maybe 50 meters before I have to stop so it's a bit embarrassing lol. Once I'm fitter!

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Running on a treadmill is not the same as running outside. You can do it, but you'd be much better off if you did at least some of your running outside. Preferably all of it.

Everyone feels self conscious to start with, but that is really all in your head. With the couch 2 5K groups I've helped there have been numerous people who are in a similar boat to you. If they can do it, so can you.
Can I ask, what's so wrong about a treadmill? It's a bit worrisome to me to see so many people on here telling me not to run on one as I just spent quite a lot of money on buying one lol. Is there a major downside to treadmills or something?

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Most people use Strava or something similar for that.
I did take a look at Strava, but it seems to be GPS based which means as far as the app is concerned I won't be going anywhere if I'm running on a treadmill lol. I did buy the iFit module for my treadmill but I'm not sure if it allows me to track anything, hopefully, it will.

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That would be a bad way to do it. Use the Couch 2 5K plan instead; that will get you from nothing to running 5km in around 9 weeks. There's an app somewhere as well.
I downloaded the Couch 2 5k plan and tried it out! Ahaha >< I didn't get very far, I think the 1min running time is a bit too long for me as a starting point. I might have to do 30 sec run 90 sec walk. But thanks for letting me know about the AP its definitely something I'll try to build up too.

Edit: I've been looking at iFit this morning and found this program: https://www.ifit.com/library/program...e/beginner_5k_
It looks quite easy to start off with, you guys with loads of experience will be able to tell me if its any good?

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Old 16th May 17, 03:14 PM
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Can I ask, what's so wrong about a treadmill? It's a bit worrisome to me to see so many people on here telling me not to run on one as I just spent quite a lot of money on buying one lol. Is there a major downside to treadmills or something?
Running on a treadmill is not the same as running outside. The impact forces and muscles that you use are different so if you do all your running on a treadmill, when you go to run outside you'll have a much greater risk of injuring yourself.

Aside from that you won't learn how to pace yourself properly, which will mean you tend to run too fast outside and thus you'll run out of steam quickly. Learning pacing is important, especially when you're just starting out.

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I downloaded the Couch 2 5k plan and tried it out! Ahaha >< I didn't get very far, I think the 1min running time is a bit too long for me as a starting point. I might have to do 30 sec run 90 sec walk. But thanks for letting me know about the AP its definitely something I'll try to build up too.
If you struggle, slow down. If that means you are running slower than you can walk, that's fine. The important thing is that you run and that you don't give up.

It is hard to start with, but that's kind of the point. If it was easy you would not improve. If you do the 30 sec run/90 sec walk, treat that as week zero and then go straight to the C25K plan the following week.
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Old 16th May 17, 05:19 PM
Cerianna Cerianna is offline
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Running on a treadmill is not the same as running outside. The impact forces and muscles that you use are different so if you do all your running on a treadmill, when you go to run outside you'll have a much greater risk of injuring yourself.

Aside from that you won't learn how to pace yourself properly, which will mean you tend to run too fast outside and thus you'll run out of steam quickly. Learning pacing is important, especially when you're just starting out.
Alright I get that, however, if I only want to run inside for the time being (say the next year or so) is there any downside to doing it on a treadmill (a.k.a is there a risk of injury or something?). As it is right now its either a treadmill or nothing for me in terms of running, but obviously I don't want to hurt myself.
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Old 16th May 17, 06:58 PM
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Treadmills are great for getting the body used to running and getting the body use to the stresses placed on it during running. However it's important to compliment running with some basic strength work e.g. Squats lunges press ups. You have to get the body strong enough to withstand the stresses your going to apply to it, if you don't you will get injured. Actually you'll get injured anyway but your less likely to get injured and less severely injured if your strong and robust
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Old 17th May 17, 12:29 PM
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Well done on taking this step Cerianna, and enjoy your treadmill ! It's convenient, it's private, and you WILL get fitter through using it which will help you make the transition to running outside and making even more progress.

Q. What is the difference between running and jogging? Are they one and the same?
A. "Running" confuses a lot of new starters. Taken literally, it describes something much faster than what you should focus on first. Aim for jogging with walk breaks, where "jogging" means that point at which you are only just no longer walking, but no quicker. Don't forget the walk breaks as you're getting started. With time, you will take less, and shorter breaks, simply because you're getting fitter - no need for a stopwatch IMHO.

Q(?). I tried jogging with my dog in the park and I lasted all of 1 min before I was completely exhausted. I couldn't imagine running that same time frame, think I would die!
A. Yeah.. don't worry about running for now. When you can "jog" for 30 minutes, then maybe you can think about going faster, if you even want to.

Q. Another question I have is: Approximately how long time (if I do a 20min run/jog/walk every morning) will it take for me to reach a level of fitness to be able to constantly run for 10mins? I fully expect it to be a slow process but it would be nice knowing some kind of general time frame.
A. Hard to say, I'm sure it's different for everyone. Why not try recording how long you can jog for without stopping once a week - so one of your workouts is this kind of time trial. Looking back over a few weeks then you should get the idea how long it will take to reach 10mins constant - if you don't get there really soon anyway.

Have fun and stick at it, post some updates here occasionally!

P.S. I ran a marathon two years ago. Starting from ground zero again right now, I don't jog more than about 10 minutes without a walk break at the moment. So needing walk breaks isn't a factor of *you*, it's a factor of not having exercised at all recently - ex-marathon runners included.

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Old 17th May 17, 01:41 PM
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Q. What is the difference between running and jogging? Are they one and the same?
A. "Running" confuses a lot of new starters. Taken literally, it describes something much faster than what you should focus on first. Aim for jogging with walk breaks, where "jogging" means that point at which you are only just no longer walking, but no quicker.
It has nothing to do with pace and more to do with effort. The distinction is subtle but important.

For me if I was to run slightly faster than I can walk then I'd be barely breathing and it would be a trivial effort, but I know people for who that pace would be a huge effort and they'd be breathing heavily. Those people are still running even though I and possibly even they could walk faster than they run.

In every local C25K group I've known there has been at least 1 person like that. They do a 5K in 45 - 50+ minutes, but they still run the whole way.
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Old 17th May 17, 03:17 PM
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So if you're unfit, you can't jog - but you can run?
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Old 21st May 17, 05:34 AM
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I am using the Public Health England app to do C25K now. I'm on week 4. It is hard but the app has a "celebrity" to motivate you as you go. I had to go very slowly on Week 1, but I can see that I am getting faster now on Week 4. The plans get you to run 3 days a week with some rest days, when you can do different exercise or cross training. It ensures that you can both complete the training and rest your body, so that you don't injure yourself.
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