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Old 4th May 10, 12:50 PM
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Chris Thompson new 10000m star?

http://www.morethanthegames.co.uk/at...-list?page=0,0

Never heard of him, but he has just run the 3rd fastest 10,000m for a British athlete! The winner of the race became the first non-African to run sub 27!!! Distance running might be getting a whole lot more exciting
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Old 4th May 10, 12:52 PM
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Unbelievable and fair play to him, all those injuries and he's still doing it, and doing it very very well
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Old 4th May 10, 12:59 PM
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I still think we should have an Elite section, baiiiryyyyy!!!!

Solinsky's run was amazing. I read about it a few days ago and both Chris and and Galen ran incredibly well!
Of course the two Kenyan runners separating them ran really well too but one tends to think "Ah! But they were Kenyans!" unfair... So, all credit due.

Back to the British Chris, sub 28mins nowadays is a rare thing by an European other than Mo or a handful of Spanywards.
Going sub 27:30 is really, really good!
May he stay injury free!
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Old 4th May 10, 02:09 PM
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Interview......... chris Thompson interview
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Old 4th May 10, 03:49 PM
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Thanks for that. Interesting read, especially that he never runs faster than 7:30 pace unless it is a key session.
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Old 4th May 10, 03:53 PM
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Thats ace, thanks Ray, 7.30 must feel like walking to him
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Loads of other interviews on that site too. The interesting thing is they all do things differently. Some also do weights, some do circuits and one said ' to be a better runner you should be running'..... I had to check I wasn't reading a Simkiss interview (only a matter of time I reckon!!)
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Old 4th May 10, 06:50 PM
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Great interview, Ray! thanks for that.
Richard, if you read this thread, what do you think of:

"What is your longest run?

12 miles on a Sunday(...)"

For Half-Marathon and Marathon training I think your long runs are good distance wise but I have always felt they are a bit too long when going for shorter distances.
Of course that different methods work in different ways depending on the athlete but I would like to know your opinion.

PS: My "original" training group with athletes running as fast as 1h05m Half-Marathons never did more than 1h30m of continuous running (and that might, at the most, amount to 14mi).
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Old 4th May 10, 07:24 PM
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I seen him at the international cross at edinburgh and have been following him, very pleased for him.

He ran 28:02 on the road at the Trafford 10k a few months back. Clearly a very good athlete, and his Power of ten makes for interesting reading, a wide range of quality PB's.
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Old 4th May 10, 07:38 PM
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Keeping his heart rate nice and low with those 7:30 miles. As he says "The glue that holds him together"
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Great interview, Ray! thanks for that.
Richard, if you read this thread, what do you think of:

"What is your longest run?

12 miles on a Sunday(...)"

For Half-Marathon and Marathon training I think your long runs are good distance wise but I have always felt they are a bit too long when going for shorter distances.
Of course that different methods work in different ways depending on the athlete but I would like to know your opinion.

PS: My "original" training group with athletes running as fast as 1h05m Half-Marathons never did more than 1h30m of continuous running (and that might, at the most, amount to 14mi).
It's made me look at things a little differently to be honest - I mean just like everyone else on the forum I'm learning from others (normally coaches and athletes of a much higher ability than myself), and particularly with the american athletes a long run of around 16mi, and weekly mileage of around 100miles seems fairly standard practice to achieve sub 30min 10ks - so that's very much what I've aspired to. What interests me about this guy is that he's running sub 28min 10k's based on a longest run of 12mi, and his second session of each day is only 4miles of easy paced running.
I wonder if there's any specific reason why the quality sessions are done in the AM, and easy sessions in the PM?

Perhaps I do need to focus more on quality work and not worry about quantity so much? I guess my problem has always come in that whilst wanting to improve at shorter distances I've wanted to maintain my ability to just knock out a half marathon or long run at any time - perhaps I need to be a bit more focused with my training rather than trying to keep it so broad...

Certainly food for thought!

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Keeping his heart rate nice and low with those 7:30 miles. As he says "The glue that holds him together"
I like hearing this... as it's so easy to even start analysing what pace you're going on your easy run - I bet he just pulls his trainers on and sets off on autopilot, barely expending any energy!
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Old 5th May 10, 08:09 AM
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Keeping his heart rate nice and low with those 7:30 miles. As he says "The glue that holds him together"
It's ace isn't it?

Summed it up perfectly, and something that strikes a cord with me, as I love a race against my watch, and no doubt it's done me more harm than good at times.
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Old 5th May 10, 08:24 AM
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It's made me look at things a little differently to be honest - I mean just like everyone else on the forum I'm learning from others (normally coaches and athletes of a much higher ability than myself), and particularly with the american athletes a long run of around 16mi, and weekly mileage of around 100miles seems fairly standard practice to achieve sub 30min 10ks - so that's very much what I've aspired to. What interests me about this guy is that he's running sub 28min 10k's based on a longest run of 12mi, and his second session of each day is only 4miles of easy paced running.
I wonder if there's any specific reason why the quality sessions are done in the AM, and easy sessions in the PM?

Perhaps I do need to focus more on quality work and not worry about quantity so much? I guess my problem has always come in that whilst wanting to improve at shorter distances I've wanted to maintain my ability to just knock out a half marathon or long run at any time - perhaps I need to be a bit more focused with my training rather than trying to keep it so broad...

Certainly food for thought!
I reckon hard sessions should always be done in the morning, it's when your legs are most recovered, allowing for maximum effort, doing your hard session as the second part of a double has never really made sense to me as you could be compromising session quality for the sake of extra miles.

Rich you know my thoughts on too many miles (esp. when training for "shorter" distances) so wont bore you and the forum with it again, but there's many different ways to train for a 10K and/or half marathon and what works for one athlete wont work for the other. It's all about learning and adapting and understanding your body, no-one knows it as well as you.

I certainly wouldn't say your training is "broad" you marathon plan was very specific and got you a good result, and it certainly involved some quality sessions, I remember 18miles @ 6.02 pace and those horrible Jack Daniels sessions.
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Old 5th May 10, 09:07 AM
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It's made me look at things a little differently to be honest - I mean just like everyone else on the forum I'm learning from others (normally coaches and athletes of a much higher ability than myself), and particularly with the american athletes a long run of around 16mi, and weekly mileage of around 100miles seems fairly standard practice to achieve sub 30min 10ks - so that's very much what I've aspired to. What interests me about this guy is that he's running sub 28min 10k's based on a longest run of 12mi, and his second session of each day is only 4miles of easy paced running.
I wonder if there's any specific reason why the quality sessions are done in the AM, and easy sessions in the PM?

Perhaps I do need to focus more on quality work and not worry about quantity so much? I guess my problem has always come in that whilst wanting to improve at shorter distances I've wanted to maintain my ability to just knock out a half marathon or long run at any time - perhaps I need to be a bit more focused with my training rather than trying to keep it so broad...
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I reckon hard sessions should always be done in the morning, it's when your legs are most recovered, allowing for maximum effort, doing your hard session as the second part of a double has never really made sense to me as you could be compromising session quality for the sake of extra miles.

I certainly wouldn't say your training is "broad" you marathon plan was very specific and got you a good result, and it certainly involved some quality sessions, I remember 18miles @ 6.02 pace and those horrible Jack Daniels sessions.

Thank you for the reply, Richard!
I wonder if the mileage and pace is also a compromise they have found to keep him injury free.

I agree with Stu when it comes to your training. At least in the last few months it has been specific, goal oriented and... it worked

Hard sessions in the morning...
Back to that "original group" of mine, hard sessions were run on tuesday and thursday afternoon and on Saturday morning. Saturday's was in the morning as a matter of convenience.
Maybe for Chris it works as for Stu. Maybe he feels fresher in the morning.
I experience the opposite though, Stu. It takes hours for my body to be at it's maximum. If I race in the morning I am usually up some 4 hours before the race.
So in this aspect I prefer to do like Richard when running doubles with a hard session in. Very easy in the morning and hard later on.

I have one other question but I will write it on another thread because it's very specific...
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Old 5th May 10, 10:18 AM
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So in this aspect I prefer to do like Richard when running doubles with a hard session in. Very easy in the morning and hard later on.
Likewise - When waking at 5am I'm really not in the right state to do a quality session, physically I'm not all there, certainly not loose and flexible as I should be, and mentally I'm still half asleep.
For races I can afford to get up hours before the race, but in training I'd need to get up nearer 4am to enable a quality/intense pre-work session.

I like your thinking/logic behind it though stu, and in an ideal world I'd be inclined to approach it that way.
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