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Old 2nd Jun 12, 01:30 AM
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2012 update. After recovering from fractured ribs in January, it took me some time to get back into barefoot running.
Here's what I've been doing in 2012:


7th of January: 2.0km - 10:27- Tarmac.

17th of January: 1.0km - 7:15- Tarmac.

30th of January: 2.0km - 16:00- Tarmac.

14th of February: 3.1km - 16:25- Tarmac.

8th of March: 2.53km - 15:00- Tarmac.

21st of March: 3.0km - 16:14- Tarmac.

7th of April: 1.0km - 5:34- Forest tracks - Silly me, chose the pebbly, gravely section

8th of April: 3.10km - 16:15- Grass/dirt.

31st of May: 5.0km - 22:53.9- Grass. - Feeling like attempting to run a sub 20:00 5km barefoot soon.

1st of June: 5.0km - 21:21.4- Grass.

From my Training Blog:

Decided to run 2km on the grass after 12km++ done.
Looking at the time at half-way, 11:22, I though about beating yesterday's time of 22:53.9 and picked up the pace.
5km barefoot - grass - 21:21.4 - BarefootPB - BPB
11:22+10:59 with a 3:48 last km!
4:35, 4:34, 4:24, 3:56, 3:48

All of this running around a football pitch (around 465m per lap) and with two very tight 90º turns - and not even trying for the first half.
I was totally unaware of my previous BPB (21:43) so this came as a nice surprise!

I'll take some other BPB's from today for future reference:

BPB's:
1km - 3:48
2km - 7:44
3km - 12:08
5km - 21:21.4
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Old 2nd Jun 12, 02:47 PM
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I think the general idea is that minimalist or barefoot running toughens up the feet bones and ligaments to the point where you no longer have that as a problem.

I run in NB minimus, which I adore.
I'm a NB minimus convert, best thing I every did, at the moment I run in the MT10's got my nose hung over a pair of Zeros' also.
I now stike midfoot/forefoot and my running improved no end.
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Old 3rd Jun 12, 04:37 PM
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Fulmar- Interesting that you're now setting up BPB targets. I'm still pursuing barefooting, mixed up with a bit of VFFs and ordinary trainers, but as yet I haven't really been logging my BPBs.

I do wear my Garmin though, and so far, the furthest I've run is 0.58miles which I did in 6mins 41 yesterday.

I've not really been worrying about times yet because I'm still building up foot strength. Some of my speeds have been shockingly slow!!!
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Old 5th Jun 12, 08:18 PM
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setting up BPB targets.
I think this is a great way to motivate myself to run barefoot

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I've not really been worrying about times yet because I'm still building up foot strength. Some of my speeds have been shockingly slow!!!
"shockingly slow"??? You are adapting and building up strength!
You are doing very well
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Old 5th Jun 12, 08:31 PM
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Are you spending all of your runs partly barefoot Fulmar? I did 5k the other week without any problem but I don´t know if I would get injured if I did that 3 times a week. I do realise you are supposed to build up slowly. I also have a good advantage in that I can run on the beach.
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Old 5th Jun 12, 08:44 PM
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Are you spending all of your runs partly barefoot Fulmar? I did 5k the other week without any problem but I don´t know if I would get injured if I did that 3 times a week. I do realise you are supposed to build up slowly. I also have a good advantage in that I can run on the beach.
No, no, no!
I have not run barefoot for a long time and just got motivated to do it again last week.
You run on the beach? Sand is hard on the calves but if you take it easy it will make you strong quickly.
Just be careful with the broken bottles and sharp shells.
I have run barefoot on grass (here in Sweden) so 5km are not a problem.
It has been very windy lately but if it stops I will try to go sub 20:00 barefoot this week
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Old 5th Jun 12, 09:00 PM
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I think sand is amazing for building up leg and foot strength. I´m looking to spend most of the summer using the beach before moving onto the road in September. With a family, it´s all logistics though.

On the roads around here, the problem are the little seeds that fall from the trees. They´re killers if you get one right under the arch.
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Old 6th Jun 12, 01:29 PM
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I think it sounds like a nice change of target for people to switch to barefoot and re-adjust to achieve something new...... not sure I could stop the sort of training I love doing just to re-adapt to barefoot running so hats off to you guys.

I guess I dont personally feel like I need to run barefoot, so out of interest what is the reason most are doing it? interest? injury?

edit: I notice for Fulmar its about injury.... how about others?

Its really interesting that your getting the sore groin as soon as you put shoes on Fulmar, sometimes I wonder if the injury free claims are because people lower mileage and intensity to get used to barefoot and suddenly seem injury free..... not realising the decrease in miles is also helping

I think it goes to show that you have to find what works for you

Ive been running my short sharp stuff in racing flats...Asics Hyperspeeds.... took a good few months for the calves to get used to them but have to say I love the freedom and speed you feel.

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Old 6th Jun 12, 02:52 PM
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so out of interest what is the reason most are doing it? interest? injury?
Both. I used to get knee probs but since I adjusted my form based on what I think is a more natural barefoot style, I´ve not felt them. As for going barefoot itself, I´m gradually building it up.

It feels wonderful because the feet get a massage, although the calves do suffer more (the other point of view is they get a better workout). You also have to look out where you tread but your feet get more used to that as they get stronger.

The best thing of all though is the looks I get from others - runners and non-runners alike. Those are worth it on their own
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Old 6th Jun 12, 04:19 PM
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I've just started barefoot running and I've got a pair of VFFs and a pair of Invisible Shoes in the post. I've taken it up because I've had knee problems since I was a kid. I used to run a lot and I always ended up with knee injuries. So now I've gone back to running after a few years break I'm trying to address this. I start and finish my run in trainers and do the midsection barefoot when it's safe to, I always notice a difference in how my knees feel when I switch from shoes to barefoot and back again.
Plus I love the freedom of running barefoot, there's something very liberating about it.

I must admit I've yet to experience any issues with my calves, but then again I tend to totter around on the balls of my feet when I'm barefoot around the house (don't ask why just a strange habit probably learnt from years of ballet). I also have fairly hefty calves from cycling a lot. So maybe this all helps.
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Old 6th Jun 12, 09:18 PM
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edit: I notice for Fulmar its about injury....
I started running barefoot back in 1996 - I won my first race running barefoot and that was enlightening.
At the moment it's helping me with my injury but it is a pleasure to feel the ground, to get even closer to Nature.

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Its really interesting that your getting the sore groin as soon as you put shoes on Fulmar, sometimes I wonder if the injury free claims are because people lower mileage and intensity to get used to barefoot and suddenly seem injury free..... not realising the decrease in miles is also helping
I haven't lowered my mileage (I have been increasing it) but you may have a point there.

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Ive been running my short sharp stuff in racing flats...Asics Hyperspeeds.... took a good few months for the calves to get used to them but have to say I love the freedom and speed you feel.
I brought two pairs of running shoes to Sweden. One pair is the typical big heel, lots of "protection" Nike thing.
The other - Nike racing flats.
I have started doing long runs in the flats and the pain isn't there!
I put the "big ones" on and I feel heavy, clumsy...
I will still wear them as they are great on some extreme routes I run here but the next pair of shoes I buy will be racing flats.

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It feels wonderful because the feet get a massage, although the calves do suffer more (the other point of view is they get a better workout). You also have to look out where you tread but your feet get more used to that as they get stronger.

I will only add the contact with Nature bit.

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I've just started barefoot running
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Old 7th Jun 12, 03:22 AM
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dog poo is the main reason that I will probably never run barefoot in the UK
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I brought two pairs of running shoes to Sweden. One pair is the typical big heel, lots of "protection" Nike thing.
The other - Nike racing flats.
I have started doing long runs in the flats and the pain isn't there!
I put the "big ones" on and I feel heavy, clumsy...
I will still wear them as they are great on some extreme routes I run here but the next pair of shoes I buy will be racing flats.
Thats also why I dont like wearing the bigger shoes, they do feel a bit clumsy dont they.

Dont think I will run barefoot but the lightweight shoes feel good for me

where in Sweden are you? I lived in Orebro for a while....
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Old 7th Jun 12, 09:08 PM
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I have been moving every other week so far but all within Västra Götaland.
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Old 7th Jun 12, 09:18 PM
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If I start running bare foot won't my feet be a bit rough round my fella's back?? Sorry this isn't the place for this sort of chat
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