Hi GS

I hope you find a solution in the advice you have been given, stick at it hopefully you will get past it, you can't stop running now you have been doing so well

Keep us posted on any updates.

TT

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Bird in Boots Oh what have I done FLM09

I definately know how you feel, even though i have not been injured anywhere, i do now and have been suffering with bad migraines (everyday) which has affected my running.

Its very hard work for me to run now and a race last night i even said i am going to give this up.

The headaches seems to drain my energy, my legs are up to it just something is stopping me, the energy is not there.

Any tips would be great for me also.

I admit that everyone is not cut out for running but i come long way i certainly am not giving up now without a fight.

I have already been pescribed three different treatments, recent one now is beta blockers, which dont seem to work.

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Are we there Yet

That sounds awful Leece, I don't blame for not giving up, I didn't and I am getting back to running slowly but surely, hopefully you will work things out too.

TT

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Bird in Boots Oh what have I done FLM09

My club are very supportive and see that i am unwell .. normally i am happy cheery on races but last night was pure agony for me...

So getting back on form is my next task.

How i do that i have no idea but i will try anything.

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Are we there Yet

I hope you don't mind my offering a few thoughts. I've been very interested in this thread during the day.

1 Alexander wouldn't do you any harm either it may well alter your conscious thoughts as to your posture when running.

2 I presume that as you say you are a regular migraine sufferer that you have kept a food diary to examine whether anything there is triggering it. It may sound bizarre, but my partner can eat any other citrus fruit, but oranges. Show her an orange and it's dark room and ice cold compress time.

3 Consider that a combination of foods/drinks and endorphin release may be too much for you something needs to go. Really look at foods and drink. Red wine is a common trigger I suspect you know.

4 At the risk of being insensitive you may like to check out whether the symptoms are more pronounced on or around your "cycle"

5 Whatever you look at, here's a radical solution. Find a small ball bearing ( about 1/8th inch) tape this onto the inner sole of you shoes so that it makes contact just to the centre/rear of the ball of your left foot if you are right handed or vice versa if you are left handed....A wee bit like shiatsu as you run. My partner has used this for her migraines, I stress though, that the ball bearing is kept small and is taped to the insock rather than your foot, as the ball of your feet needs to move around on it to replicate finger massage.

Hope this helps
Bear

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Just had another thought Leece. The zennish "Chi" approach wouldn't do you any harm either. It all depends on how good you think your imagination is. If you are good at maths forget it I'm not a big fan of chemical based Western medicine, but I don't want people to think I'm going off on one again. No I'm not a doctor, but I have studied these things because of helping my disabled partner through her pains.
Seriously though I could share some thoughts. If you want, mail me or if you and others are happy I'll share those thoughts here. Up to you.
I have asked admin to remove though, so I may not have access much longer
percymewgull@yahoo.co.uk
Bear

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My P.B.is P.

Why?

I'm intrigued by the idea of Chi running, but I won't bother investigating it if you have any justification for saying this. Me being a maths genius an' all.

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Cautiously potter-along puddy

beta blockers are precribed to prevent migraines but they do not have any effect on migraines when you have them...

they work by lowering the blood pressure to prevent migraines...

side effect of beta blockers are dizziness, lightheadness and drowiness...

if you are getting these effects then you may have low blood pressure...

GPs should routinely take everyone's blood pressure with migraines but i know this doesn't always happen...

if you haven't had it taken then make sure you ask your GP to do it...


btw, standing on a ballbearing will not help migraine... that's nonsense...

Don't knock it till you've tried it

Seriously, I would have said the same, but I know that when I was younger, my mum used to be able to relieve my migraines my massaging my feet in just that spot. It doesn't seem to work any more, or maybe my husband and myself don't have my mum's magic fingers , but maybe there's some truth in it - even if it's just that it's relaxing, which does often help to ease the symptoms, even if it doesn't make the migraine go away completely.

With migraines, I work on the principle that if it works, then just accept that it works, even if there's no rhyme nor reason. Even the medical experts still don't understand migraine properly and while I think it's highly unlikely that feet will ever prove to be linked (!), I'm still happy to go with whatever works for me.

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Leece, just a quick thought, but have you had your haemoglobin levels checked? Just wondering if it could be anything to do with iron deficiancy

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What ever happened to somebody asking a question, and people giving their responses and leaving it at that so that the person asking the question can decide with methods they would like to look into further??

As has been mentioned many times already, it's very hard to judge emotion or 'tone of voice' when typing on a forum, so for everyones sake I always find it best to a) think about what you're typing, and whether it could be mis-interpreted (regardless of if it's meant to be a joke), and b) when reading something that could potentially be offensive, try not to react to it and enter an excessively heated debate.

People may think they should be able to say what they want, but in my opinion that's not the case - this is a friendly public forum where anyone should be able to come, read it's content and not feel uncomfortable. Please forumites, can we try and hold back any personal grudges that may be developing and stick to the topic(s)?!



EDIT: I've now deleted the unnecessary posts, if people wish to continue the discussion, please feel free to do so privately

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Well said! I only joined last week and it is a friendly forum. I was on another and really it was so bitchy, I just didn't even post on it.

Ha, ha, ha! We're going to have to start calling you Richard "The Closer" Simkiss from now on!

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GONE RUNNING

Cheers Richard

I walked away last night after my last post, deciding not to rise again and wishing I hadn't already, so thanks for deleting.

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I think anyone who needed to say anything managed to say it, and it appeared as though all posts had been read by parties involved... posts were only deleted to save guests and new members having to trawl through a heated discussion to find the relevant info to the thread title - no harm done I hope!

GoSlow... it'd be really appreciated if you could come back and let us know how you've got on

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