I am just starting training for my 10km's this year and am thinking of taking one of these a week, does any one use them currently?any good? I train most days and always feel guilty about taking Products like this, but I am desperate to improve performance/time!

i am eating loads of fruit/flapjack/Cereal and carbs but somtimes feel I cant eat enough to give my body what it needs!

Any help advice would be great......

I use carb/protein shakes after training, don't think they do any harm, worth a try!

I use FGS after long runs or after speed work. Do I think they help my performance, Im not sure but I have never had a bad effect from having them. They taste good as well

O.

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A glass of nesquik has about the same carb / protein levels yet is a fraction of the price!

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Truth be told I've not really noticed much benefit from recovery drinks - the theory behind them seems to suggest they help recovery, but I'm yet to think "ah, I wish I'd had that recovery drink after yesterdays session", as the difference isn't really noticeable, especially if you're already eating sufficient carbs, protein and plenty of fruit/veg.

That said, it doesn't hurt to give it a go!

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I dont tend to take one after every session and as Richard said, I have never thought, "I should have had that drink last night", but they taste good so no harm taking one.

I find they stop me from eating a load of food after a session as well as they fill me up quite nice after a good session.

O.

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Hi guys, I'm new to this forum; please forgive any 'Runners Forum-Specific Ignorance' on my behalf...

I've been taking Protein and Nutrition supplements for years and I find that they help recovery, they definitely aid my performance and bolster my diet, especially my salts - I tend to cramp easily. I pride myself on my nutrient intake and diet control, but supplementation, I find, is a fantastic way to keep my diet in check without sacrifice.

armer4eng, I would most certainly recommend supplementing your diet, although I'd personally steer clear of Goodness Shakes or similar mainstream "nutrient shakes"...

I hope this helps...

Hello mate welcome to site, thanks for the advice. as previously said do you think a pint of milk would have the same impact as one of these shakes then?

I will also drink Gatorade is this best before or after training?

Whilst you'll need to look past all the sales pitching and adverts, I find most of what I use through a company on the net.
I've no idea if it's of any use, but I thought I'd humbly offer my alternative recommendations to Goodness Shakes - I hope they are of use.

http://www.bargain-supplements.co.uk...ey-2-27kg.html

-or-

http://www.bargain-supplements.co.uk...ey-2-27kg.html

(For Protein Supplementation)

-And-

http://www.bargain-supplements.co.uk...xcell-2kg.html
(For isotonic replenishment - cheaper than lucozade)

Apologies, I didn't see this message before my last reply..

I personally would not recommend milk, as it contains lactose, which whilst not a problem, does inhibit digestion to a certain degree...
I take the supplements, I previously quoted, with water; allowing ease of digestion...

I'll elaborate further on the rest of your question, please forgive my laboured typing speed...

Gatorade is, in my opinion, a great isotonic carbohydrate drink, as is Lucozade and to a degree Powerade... The only problem with these, I believe, is their value for money leaves a lot to be desired.

Ultimately, after intense exercise, your body requires carbohydrates, salts and proteins, essentially in that order. An Isotonic drink immediately, followed by a form of protein supplement about 15 minutes after a run is ideal to promote recovery - again, in my opinion!

If you are strictly opposed to protein supplements, I would say that a blended up chicken breast would be better than milk, as the fats & lactose content are minimal in chicken, compared to milk, and would be absorbed a lot faster.

Please feel free to come back at me with challenges or questions.

http://www.bulkpowders.co.uk/

This is a great cheap website.....i get my whey protein from them and i also take l-glutamine i find is great for recovery. The protein is unflavoured so in put it in porridge and shakes also

http://www.myprotein.co.uk/bulk-powd...s/l-glutamine/

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Thanks for all the advice guys, I will take a look at the links this avo..

haha. Agreed! I guess chicken pate would suffice

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2. Sub 17 5k (Done in 16:57)
4. Sub 1:20 half marathon
4. Sub 36 10k