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Old 21st May 08, 06:43 AM
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When did we all suddenly become such an allergic society, everone seems to be allergic to everything now from peanuts to wheat and dairy. We have gotten soft in our bubble wrapped world where everything has become dangerous. I mean you can't even go to hospital now without getting ill.

Of taking risks and learning from your mistakes. My daughter has outgrown her cot so we dropped the mattress to it's lowest setting took off the sides and put something soft for her to land on. First night she fell out 7 times second and third once and she hasn't fallen out since. Friends of ours have got one of those safety nets b ut if the child never falls they will never learn.
Yeah, I like that sort of approach Squint. Seems like there is no room for "learning" with the peanut allergy thing though. But hold on a minute... If the mere taste/smell of a peanut can be lethal; how does anyone discover that the allergy is there in the first place without it being too late?! :eek:
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Yeah, I like that sort of approach Squint. Seems like there is no room for "learning" with the peanut allergy thing though. But hold on a minute... If the mere taste/smell of a peanut can be lethal; how does anyone discover that the allergy is there in the first place without it being too late?! :eek:
I have suspicions to some degree that an 'allergy' is just an excuse for not liking something. I'm not denying that there are genuine allergies, but you have to wonder sometimes

....... I recently came across a form that said the child could not be given water only juice because of a medical condition!!!! Needless to tell you what I thought!! My reply was that in that case the parents will have to supply it. I wait to see what the child comes provided with. If it is fizzy, I'll know they are taking the pi$$.
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Old 22nd May 08, 06:34 AM
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I have suspicions to some degree that an 'allergy' is just an excuse for not liking something. I'm not denying that there are genuine allergies, but you have to wonder sometimes

....... I recently came across a form that said the child could not be given water only juice because of a medical condition!!!! Needless to tell you what I thought!! My reply was that in that case the parents will have to supply it. I wait to see what the child comes provided with. If it is fizzy, I'll know they are taking the pi$$.
I'd like them to find a juice drink that wasn't, in some part at least, water.
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Old 22nd May 08, 06:55 AM
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I'd like them to find a juice drink that wasn't, in some part at least, water.
Quite, it's a case of pandering to the child's pathetic requests.

In this house, if they don't like it, they go without. No alternative. Yes there are things we all dislike. I have an irrational dislike to jelly and OH turns her stomach at the mere thought of rice pudding, however, both items regularly appear on the menu.

Oh and they also chose how much they want, if there is any left (within reason, sometimes I may get carried away with mash etc) then they go without pudding. If they are 'full up' of dinner and can't finish it, then there is no room for pudding and definitely not sweets. If they do finish their meals, seconds are allowed when available, otherwise it's fruit.

Too strict or sensible? I'd be interested to know the thoughts of other parents?
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Just got this e-mail.....

CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL THE KIDS WHO WERE BORN IN THE
1940's, 50's, 60's 70's 80's !!

First, we survived being born to mothers who smoked and/or drank while they carried us.
They took aspirin, ate blue cheese dressing, tuna from a tin, and didn't get tested for diabetes.
Then after that trauma, our baby cots were covered with bright coloured lead-based paints.
We had no childproof lids on medicine bottles, doors or cabinets and when we rode our bikes, we had no helmets.
We drank water from the garden hosepipe and NOT from a bottle.
We shared one soft drink with four friends, from one bottle and NO ONE actually died from this.
We ate cakes, white bread and real butter and drank pop with sugar in it, but we weren't overweight
WE WERE ALWAYS OUTSIDE PLAYING!!
We would leave home in the morning and play all day, as long as we were back when the streetlights came on.
No one was able to reach us all day. And we were O.K.
We would spend hours building our go-carts out of scraps and then ride down the hill, only to find out we forgot the brakes.
After running into the bushes a few times, we learned to solve the problem .
We fell out of trees, got cut, broke bones and teeth and there were no lawsuits from these accidents .
We played with worms and mud pies made from dirt, and the worms did not live in us forever.
Made up games with sticks and tennis balls and although we were told it would happen, we did not poke out any eyes.
We rode bikes or walked to a friend's house and knocked on the door or rang the bell, or just yelled for them!
Local teams had tryouts and not everyone made the team. Those who didn't had to learn to deal with disappointment. Imagine that!!
This generation has produced some of the best risk-takers, problem solvers and inventors ever!
The past 50 years have been an explosion of innovation and new ideas.
We had freedom, failure, success and responsibility, and we learned
HOW TO
DEAL WITH IT ALL!
And YOU are one of them!
CONGRATULATIONS!
You might want to share this with others who have had the luck to grow up as kids, before the lawyers and the government regulated our lives for our own good.
and while you are at it, forward it to your kids so they will know how brave their parents were.
Kind of makes you want to run through the house with scissors, doesn't it?!
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Where were all these allergys in our childhood I'd never heard of anyone with a wheat intolerance when I was younger. Anti-biotics are dished out like sweeties, whatever happened to Anti-bodies?If you get ill let your body deal with it grow stronger and more resillient and you get less ill. Too many people have been wrapped in cotton wool as a result they don't have the natural defences to deal with common ailments. Since when did HOT chocolate have to be labeled as HOT so people knew that it might scald them. Maybe I'm just really bright but I realised a wee while back that hot drinks might just be hot. I don't need a worning next to a hot tap because I expect the water that comes out of it to be hot.

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sometimes I may get carried away with mash etc) then they go without pudding. If they are 'full up' of dinner and can't finish it, then there is no room for pudding and definitely not sweets. If they do finish their meals, seconds are allowed when available, otherwise it's fruit.

Too strict or sensible? I'd be interested to know the thoughts of other parents?
I applaud the sentiment. But a word of warning from someone brought up that way. Be very strict on portion control and teach them the same. Part of my weight problem is because I have developed the ability to clear my plate regardless ( no clear, no pud) . As I am 6' people assume I need a lot and I don't disappoint as I always finish it. See sig for the result.
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Old 24th May 08, 11:36 PM
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Where were all these allergys in our childhood I'd never heard of anyone with a wheat intolerance when I was younger. Anti-biotics are dished out like sweeties, whatever happened to Anti-bodies?If you get ill let your body deal with it grow stronger and more resillient and you get less ill. Too many people have been wrapped in cotton wool as a result they don't have the natural defences to deal with common ailments. Since when did HOT chocolate have to be labeled as HOT so people knew that it might scald them. Maybe I'm just really bright but I realised a wee while back that hot drinks might just be hot. I don't need a worning next to a hot tap because I expect the water that comes out of it to be hot.

Blame the Americans and their Sue first, ask questions later attitude.
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......... Part of my weight problem is because I have developed the ability to clear my plate regardless ......
Twas my problem too, which is why they are asked prior to having put on their plate, exactly what and how much do they want.

This evening one of them had just 1 slice of ham, and about an inch (sorry 25 mm) of cucumber and salad cream. She finished and was rewarded with an ice cream for pudding.
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With some of the charges Mrs Squint and I have had through the door for fostering we have had our share of fussy eaters, they soon learn to eat what is in front of them as unlike their parents we wont pander to fussy eaters. Like some of you if you if they don't eat their main meal or atleast make a significant dent in it you get nothing else till your next meal. Should you eat it all then you can have pudding of a few sweets or all the fruit you can eat.
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I quite happily went without pudding on more than one occasion rather than eat something that was going to make me sick.
This is not a flippant joke, by the way.
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I'd rather just have the pudding
Not an option in the Squint residence, Dimple.
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