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Hey all, thought id start up a 2017 marathon thread where those who are training or about to train can post their runs, workouts and just general thoughts and 'stuff'.

Mines Brighton, April 9th. Not sure of time yet, maybe try for sub3. Planning on starting specific training in Jan, but currently working on building up consistant mileage with easy runs.

This weeks plan: (week 1 of 19! i guess.)

Today - zero
Tues - 5 easy
Wed - 5 easy am, club intervals pm
Thur - 5 easy am
Frid - 5 easy am
Sat - 5 easy pm
Sun - local 10m road/trail race

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Member....................Marathon..........................Target time

SamJ.........................Trail by the Sea 26/2/17.......sub 4hrs (did 3:39:44, 10th place!)

Steve.........................Bungay 2/4/17.....................sub 4hrs

OwenHD.....................Manchester 2/4/17...............sub 3.35

Gary5k.......................Brighton 9/4/17.................. sub 3.05 (did 3.20.17)
RunSpoonRun.............Brighton 9/4/17.................. sub 2.55 (did 2.57.18)
Stupid Beard...............Brighton 9/4/17...................sub 3.50 (did 4.16.50)
Stev_c.......................Boston 17/4/17................... sub 3.35 (did not run)
JackM08.....................Boston 17/4/17....................sub 3.16 (did 3.17.59)

DarrenL......................VLM 23/4/17...................... sub 3.20
Trinity1976................VLM 23/4/17....................... sub 3.20

r0bm867...................Exeter 21/5/17.....................sub 3.40
Pindar........................Sterling 21/5/17..................sub 3.30

adibear.......................Baht'at (trail) 11/6/17.........TBC

bimbambooh...............??? .................................. sub 3
JonahJones.................???................................... TBC
double5......................???....................................TBC

SamJ.........................Thames Path 100 29/4/17....sub 24hrs!

JackM08......................Albany, NY 8/10/17 ...........sub 3:15

Gary5k.......................Beachy Head 28/10/17........sub 3.45
 

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My 2017 marathon is on 23rd April. I pretty much had an 8 month break from running from Feb to Oct this year and I am just getting back into regular training. My 18 week program starts a week before Christmas and I am just building up the miles in the weeks before that. I should be hitting 30 miles a week with a 12 mile LSR at the start of the program and peaking at 55 miles a week with a 20 mile LSR. (Pfitzinger 18/55)
 

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My 18 week plan for Brighton also starts next week, so I think Gary's timing must be off :)

I am taking it easy this week due to concern about my adductor during Gosport. I don't know if I've injured it again or if it was just aching because of the distance, but since I couldn't run for 4 weeks in Aug/Sept because of an injury in that adductor I'm erring on the side of caution.

I'll probably also take december easier than planned. I really don't want to get injured again.
 

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I'm still unsure which road marathon to target (if any) London is the obvious choice but that doesn;t give me much time to train for my mountain runs which are june/july/august time
 

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Bungay on 2/4/17.
Done it before and quite like the 2 lap undulating course.
The marathon starts 2 hours before the half marathon on the same route so one gets the company of the " short coursers" on the second lap.
 

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My 2017 marathon is on 23rd April. I pretty much had an 8 month break from running from Feb to Oct this year and I am just getting back into regular training. My 18 week program starts a week before Christmas and I am just building up the miles in the weeks before that. I should be hitting 30 miles a week with a 12 mile LSR at the start of the program and peaking at 55 miles a week with a 20 mile LSR. (Pfitzinger 18/55)
Thats similar to my planned milaege Double5. Be interesting to see how your training goes, keep us posted :tup:

My 18 week plan for Brighton also starts next week, so I think Gary's timing must be off :)

I am taking it easy this week due to concern about my adductor during Gosport. I don't know if I've injured it again or if it was just aching because of the distance, but since I couldn't run for 4 weeks in Aug/Sept because of an injury in that adductor I'm erring on the side of caution.

I'll probably also take december easier than planned. I really don't want to get injured again.
I'm also taking december a bit cautious wary of over doing it, and gradually getting my miles up. Its a nice feeling going for runs feeling fresh and no niggles.
 

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Mine is 23rd April. I start my 20 week run-up on 5th December. Will post my training here. Probably will go for sub 3:20, although I will need quite a lot of improvement based on my half-marathon PB of 99:00. However, my recent 10 miler indicates it is possible.
 

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Looks like we've got a nice little group forming :tup:

Did my first session since Frankfurt today, just 2 x 2 mi at lactate threshold (ish). Really wasn't sure how it would go, particularly given the drop in temperatures this week. I ran it with my watch under my jacket so I didn't freak out about pace or heart rate and just ran by feel. This worked out well and I might do it more often while I settle back in to training.

Averaged 6:55/mi and 6:43/mi for the two 2.2 mile efforts (I didn't push too hard on the first as I really wasn't sure how I would get on). Overall I'm pretty happy with that. Obviously far slower than I have been, but it wasn't terrible and the effort felt sustainable. Legs felt great, they're certainly nice and fresh ready for the big miles coming up.

Had a bit of a dip in motivation over the past week or so, but starting to get my running mojo back I think. Looking forward to getting stuck in to training next week.
 

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I guess I will join here if that's alright. I'm not targeting a spring marathon (though may pick one up along the way) instead I've got my first 100 miler on 29th April.

Training wise I'm broadly following one of the Relentless Forward Progress plan, which is 24 weeks, peaking at 70 miles per week. The only main difference compared to most marathon plans is the bias towards the weekend LSR, peaking at a 50 mile "tune up" race.

This week is week 3 for me, so

Mon: Rest
Tues: 8 miles / 13 km
Weds: 6 miles / 10 km
Thurs: 8 miles / 13 km
Fri: Rest
Sat: 16 miles / 26 km
Sun: 6 miles / 10 km

Very little speed work in the plan, almost all running is done at an "easy" pace. Generally there is a duration of speed work set for the thursday run, say this week 12-15 minutes, but not specified on how to do it...

First time using one of the RFP plans, first 100 miler, so a lot to learn!
 

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Very little speed work in the plan, almost all running is done at an "easy" pace. Generally there is a duration of speed work set for the thursday run, say this week 12-15 minutes, but not specified on how to do it...
Are you using the book or did you get the plan off t'internet? I have the book and it does give suggestions as to what to do for the speedwork. When I did one of the plans I stuck to threshold pace 'cruise intervals' that added up to the required number of minutes, but I also did 50% more time spent at effort than the suggested times in the plan, as the book said it was OK to do so depending on experience. I was used to doing much more at threshold than the figures in the plan and didn't want to cut back too far.
 

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I have the book... to be honest most of my midweek runs are done in a rush on my lunchbreak, so prob a fair bit quicker than they ought to be run at. I have a few workouts I do, one I quite like is a pyramid session of alternating easy / hard paces, though calculating the exact amount of time at a pace can be tricky.
 

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Sam, I love that in your plan a 50 miler is a tune-up race :eek:
There are 2 races in the plan, a 50 km and a 50 mile. Problem I am having is finding anything within a couple of hours drive of here thats close in distance / time of year... It looks like I'm going to end up with a trail marathon and a 60 km (37 mile) race instead. Both short on distance, but have at least double the elevation change of the Thames Path.

I love a good pyramid session. Especially on hills, but I suppose you don't have very many of those ;)
Unf not, bridge over the highway is the best around here. 10 miles over the border into belgium there is an observation tower with about 130 steps to climb up it. Its that or driving an hour or two down into the Belgium Ardenne, not ideal.
 

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Can imagine training for a hilly trail ultra is quite tricky in the Netherlands Sam lol. Maybe get a farmer to dig you a field with some big mounds on? ;) And I cannot fathom running 100 miles either, expect the biggest thing you need to train for is the mental strength to go that long. Look up Stuart Mills Ultrastu blog, he does, or did lots of 100mile events and has some great advice, some of it a bit left field though.

Im already planning my shoes to use for my debut road marathon, current thinking is to try Adidas boosts in one flavour or another. Tried a few on today and they size really small! Im normally a 9.5 in most trainers but had to get the store person to go get a 10.5 for it fit. Think it was a ln 'Adios' something, with sexy suede leatherette upper. Bit expensive though.
 

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The Adios are a nice lightweight distance trainer - indeed I believe they're the current marathon world record shoe! I've considered using them for the marathon but I've always wimped out and gone for the Boston which are almost as light but have a touch more cushioning. I love them for half-marathons and longer tempo efforts though.

Adidas do size a bit small yeah. Wiggle have the Adios for £60 at the moment if you do decide to go for them.
 

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I love the Adios Boost for marathon running, the Boston is also a good shoe. The original pre-boost Adios was the greatest running shoe ever made.
 
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