Just in case anyone's looking at winter tyres, I have just tried these out on my bike the last couple of days in pretty wet conditions and have found them to be very grippy so far, including in standing water, cornering etc. I was too tight to splash out on them, but my OH very kindly had them put on when he dropped by bike off at the shop for other repairs. Seem worth the money so far, hasn't added much to my times. Maybe one occasion when it pays not to be too tight-fisted ... Although I still like the look of the Schwalbe Durano's for half the price.