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Went for an 8 mile run tonight, and for the first time in 3 years of running I did a negative split. Usually, no matter how far I run, or how slow the first half of my run is, I always finish the second half slower than the first. But today, I did the second 4 miles quicker than the first. I ran the first 4 miles in 28:12 and the second in 27:30 :) It wasn't a flat out pace, obviously, but I was glad to discover that I can run a negative split. I thought it was beyond me. I even managed to throw in a 6:15 mile at the end. Bizarre thing is, I found the first 4 miles a lot harder than the second. My legs felt heavy and I was really just plodding along. Then after 4 miles I just felt great. Still wasn't pushing particualrly hard but just felt I was floating back. Anyway, I feel very good right now.
 

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It wasn't long ago you said you had to start out fast wasn't it? Nice to see it works and surely the fact you feel good after the run is the benefit :)

Well done.
 

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It wasn't long ago you said you had to start out fast wasn't it? Nice to see it works and surely the fact you feel good after the run is the benefit :)

Well done.
You're right. Think I said that a few days ago. To be honest, I think it's psychological. Often when I've gone out slow my head doesn't want to push later on because I know I'm not going to run a very fast time. But tonight, I didn't care about the time or the pace. I just wanted to do 8 miles and go with the flow of how I was feeling. I feel really chuffed, even though the final time was only 55 minutes, which is about 3 or 4 minutes slower than I can run 8 miles when I'm really pushing it. And I only have to run another 8 miles before Sunday to make up my 35 for the week, so two nice easy 4 milers coming up the next couple of days :)
 

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floating along at 6:15/mi eh? Nutter! :p
I don't know if i've ever done a negative split? I guess I must have at some point!!!
I'm sure you have had those moments too where everything just clicks and it all feels incredibly easy. I mean when I went to do a full out 1 mile pb a few days ago, I could only manage 5:32 and it hurt a lot. I was breathing heavy and felt I had used up all my energy. But out of curiosity I checked my splits on training centre for the 10 miler I ran a few weeks ago in 65 minutes, and the first mile of that I ran in 5:47 and it felt easy. It was only 15 seconds slower than the 5:32 one off mile that almost killed me. It just doesn't make any sense. Just got to enjoy it when it goes well and accept the bad times :)
 

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And I only have to run another 8 miles before Sunday to make up my 35 for the week, so two nice easy 4 milers coming up the next couple of days :)
can i just ask something, how exactly do you get 35 miles in this week ?

i'm trying to rethink my running scedule and just wondering how other people managed all that running with work on top...

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i thought negative runs were easy to do you.

just start slower, increase your pace at the half way point and then go for it the last couple of miles.
 

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Talking a completely different pace, but I have to work really hard to start out slow. The difference later on is marked though and overall times are almost identical.
 

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can i just ask something, how exactly do you get 35 miles in this week ?

i'm trying to rethink my running scedule and just wondering how other people managed all that running with work on top...

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a 15mile long run on a sunday and then 3 * 7 miles in the week would get you close
 

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I used to start my weeks on Saturdays, but Garmin training centre starts my weeks on Sundays, so I tend to go with that now. I haven't figured out how to change the start of the week.

As for fitting it all in, well this week I did:

8.5 miles on Sunday
2 miles on Monday (going for mile pb)
8.2 miles on Tuesday
8.3 miles on Thursday

So only 8 miles left to do by Sunday. I usually do a 10 or 12 mile run on Sundays and/or Saturdays, and a few 10ks and 5 milers during the week, depending on what I can fit in. I'm quite lucky in that I'm an academic so I don't have to be in the office 9-5. I can work from home a lot if I want, so sometimes I'll run on a weekday afternoon. I would find it more difficult if I had a 9-5 and a long commute. I don't envy runners that have to deal with that.
 

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I used to start my weeks on Saturdays, but Garmin training centre starts my weeks on Sundays, so I tend to go with that now. I haven't figured out how to change the start of the week.

As for fitting it all in, well this week I did:

8.5 miles on Sunday
2 miles on Monday (going for mile pb)
8.2 miles on Tuesday
8.3 miles on Thursday

So only 8 miles left to do by Sunday. I usually do a 10 or 12 mile run on Sundays and/or Saturdays, and a few 10ks and 5 milers during the week, depending on what I can fit in. I'm quite lucky in that I'm an academic so I don't have to be in the office 9-5. I can work from home a lot if I want, so sometimes I'll run on a weekday afternoon. I would find it more difficult if I had a 9-5 and a long commute. I don't envy runners that have to deal with that.
I feel lucky to be in a similar position working for myself - have no idea how I'd have fitted in running when I was working. I generally run early afternoon when the streets are pretty quiet.

It's so true what you say about the running - I did a 5k all out the other day, was knackered, and it was a crap time for me - yet on other occasions I will feel I am just jogging along on a longer run and go through 5k faster than that and wonder how I'm doing it :huh:
 
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