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i'm a pretty new runner & after having to rest up for the last week or so due to dodgy knees i will be going for my first gait check & to buy my first proper pair of runners hopefully this will happen on sat.

Now what i'm wandering is about the different types of trainers for different gaits, i mean whats the actual difference in the trainers themselves? is it different tread in different places or what? i spose they should explain all this when i have the check but i don't want to seem completly dumb when i get there.

I hate relying on other people's opinions, on stuff (ie some shop assitant who doesn't know what there on about & just wants to sell me the most expensive shoes there is) i know nothing about especially when it comes to parting with my hard earnt cash.

i have posted on here about good local shops in somerset & it appears the only place recommended is in Bath, i have looked around my local town & county town & have drawn a blank so i'm just gonna have to take a gamble & get over to running Bath.


thanks for the advice
 

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If you go to a proper shop then you will not get a Saturday know nothing. If I remember right sportsshoes.com have a good description of the differences. But, trust the shop. A little knowledge can be dangerous.
 

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Basically when they do your gait analysis they will get you to run on a treadmill (or up and down the street) and carefully watch how your feet land etc. (or in some cases they will video it and then watch the replay).

From this they will be able to tell if you pronate (roll your ankle in on landing) and to what degree. They will then be able to recommend the type of support (and shoe) required to correct any wonkiness and try and get your landing as stright as possible. They should even get you to try a few different types of shoe and reassess your gait wearing them to make sure the adjustment is correct for you.

As Hrun says if you go to a specialist shop as opposed to your JJB's then you can be pretty assured that the people there will know their stuff and should be able to sort you out. (You will also find that because it is more likely they too will be runners they will also offer a lot more great advice and encouragement).
 

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the shoes have different levels of squidgyness/ hardness in them to stop excessive rolling. Some rolling happens naturally but once it goes past a point thats when the problems occure.

when i had my gait analysis they video'ed it and then played it back on a laptop.. they then did the same with each pair of shoes i tried and the difference was massivly noticable even to my untrained eye.
 

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when i had my gait analysis they video'ed it and then played it back on a laptop.. they then did the same with each pair of shoes i tried and the difference was massivly noticable even to my untrained eye.

That sounds pretty good i will make sure they check each differnent shoe, they will be glad when i'm sorted & have those shoes on cause i'm really bad at choosing stuff so i'll probably be there a few hours trying on every shoe they have in the place, + i'm still not sure if i want to run on or off road so i will have to make my mind up either way i guess.

i enjoy running more a long the river where i live, no cars or anything just me & sometimes the odd dog walker, only problem is it gets pretty muddy this time of year, but its that or a long the main road (on path) with lorries whizzing past at 50mph, well there's no contest is there :d

cheers 4 th info
 

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i'm still not sure if i want to run on or off road so i will have to make my mind up either way i guess.
I think you can get runners that are suitable for both on or off road, so hopefully you won't need to choose between your two routes. If you tell them where you run, they should take this into account when deciding on shoes for you to try.

Let us know how you get on.:)
 

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I think you can get runners that are suitable for both on or off road, so hopefully you won't need to choose between your two routes. If you tell them where you run, they should take this into account when deciding on shoes for you to try.

Let us know how you get on.:)
i think it depends on the level of support that you need.
most trail shoes are neutral support, so if you needed an overpronation road shoe that they would cause knee pain. also the rubber on the sole of trail shoes tends to be softer..great for mud but wears out really quickly on tarmac
 

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Yes, I can see that support needs to be first priority. But does that mean that Ian has to stick to either on or off road?
 

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no it dosnt mean that he has to stick to one or the other... as it will depend on him and the shoes.

personally i have shoes for both as i need the support for road stuff and the trainers that suit me are totally useless grip wise for off road stuff. also off road stuff tends to be lower to the ground which can reduce the risk of twisted ankels
 

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well i got my gait checked on the weekend & bought myself a pair of runners, i decided to go for on road 1's in the end simply because thats what i c myself doing more of, as where i normally run off road is just to muddy & wet now that i'd slipping all over the place.

as for the gait check it went pretty well, They checked me on a tread mill then tried lots of different shoes on til we found the 1's which were correct, i must say they are really comfy, but i'm still suffering knee pain, even after i only walked/ jogged about a mile i had to stop & give up & i hadn't even broke a sweat! but its no gone from both knees to just my right 1, as b4 it started in the left & then went to both???

ok so i relise now although the correct trainers will help its not going to solve the problem straight away, i think i'm just gonna have to build it up really slowly even though i could easily run 3 or 4 miles my knees just can't handle it.

anyone got any thoughts on knee braces? is this really gonna help me or should i just take it really slowly & see what happens.

thanks for the advice
 

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i just had another thought as well the other day about cod liver oil would it help at all taking this 4 my knees, i know a lot of runners take vitamins & minerals can't do any harm i spose.
 

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I think you can get runners that are suitable for both on or off road, so hopefully you won't need to choose between your two routes. If you tell them where you run, they should take this into account when deciding on shoes for you to try.
 

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when i first got my new propper shoes i did suffer for the first few times... i put this down to them making a change in the way my body was working as i ran. once i had gotten use to them it was fine..
 

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when i first got my new propper shoes i did suffer for the first few times... i put this down to them making a change in the way my body was working as i ran. once i had gotten use to them it was fine..
I was going to say the same thing. I haven't had a gait analysis done, but I really should. but I was going to say that, as you'll be running with slight different body mechanics & form, your body will need to adjust to it's new, more efficient gait & form.
 

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I had mine done yesterday at sherunsheruns at meadowhall in Sheffield. Turns out Im neutral. They had really helpful staff who guide you easily through the process. Left happy with a nice gleaming pair of Adidas Supernova Cushion 7's.
 

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I probably don't agree with most "gait analysis" or wearing highly cushioned shoes, but that is for a different discussion on another forum. But one thing, gait analysis is focussing on your legs/feet; don't forget your body posture, it has a very strong influence on how efficient your gait is. Straighten up, sit your head on your shoulders (don't slump) and your shoulders over the top of your hips (don't bend forward from the waist).

If you want a good running book (that is not a specific method of running that I coach), then look up "Master the art of running" by Malcolm Balk.
 
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