Greetings Smoko, welcome to the Forum. One thing's for sure, you can't be a LOT older than me. I reckon you must have been running in the era of that other great Antipodean, Derek Turnbull. Did you ever meet him? Are you still running on a regular basis?'G' day all, just dropped by to say hello. Probally a lot older than everyone here; (hope that's all right) have been running for 50 years. I'm harmless and love a chat on my favourite subject, athletics.Smoko