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I'm going to stick my neck out:eek:

There seems to be a bit of anti NHS sentiment coming from a few regulars on this site.

Granted, we can only judge by our own experiences and I know that the NHS is far, far from perfect! However, I have had quiet a few run ins with my local hospitals and have no complaints.

Should the NHS fix our running injuries?? I would say yes, but how far up the queue should we be?

This ain't personal I just like a bit of a hot topical debate, and hearing opinions on real subjects!

I suspect I have just lit the blue touch so I will stand back!

Flakey

PS I am not a socialist, and I have private health care!
 

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I`ve never really had a problem with the NHS.but the treatment me and my family have had in the private sector due to private health insurance has been so good and convenient,that I would never want to be without it.
 

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The actual treatment side of the NHS is not too bad, if I discount being mis-diagnosed by a GP who insisted I was depressed when I actually had under active thyroid... I am so relieved that I didn't actually take any of the anti-depressant drugs she insisted on prescribing me!

However, as I say, on the whole, the treatment side is ok. It's just actually getting to the treatment that is the problem.

At my surgery you can't make an appointment in advance, you have to actually phone on the day and make an appointment for that day. Consequently from 8am you're lucky to get through. Once you do get through...surprise surprise, there are no appointments left for that day.

So then you have to wait by the phone for the triage doctor to call and assess your problem and maybe add you on the the bottom of someones list for the day is he/she feels it appropriate.

The triage doctor is supposed to phone 'sometime in the morning' but if they have a lot of calls to make then that isn't always what happens.

Last time I waited all morning for the call, ended up driving down to the surgery early afternoon because no one had called. I was told that that triage doctor only worked til 11am that day and another docyor had taken over the calls that he hadn't been able to make. But that GP was still seeing patients and they didn't know when they would be making the left over phone calls.... and so the story continues

That is by no means an unusual experience by the way... getting past the receptionist at my surgery is like running the gauntlet!


And also, what about the fact that I have spent over £1000 of my own money (not health insurance money either) on physio, MRI scan, and sports massage plus acupunture for good measure on an injury that is proving to be quite stubborn. But when I investigate getting referred for an arthroscopy to get to the root of my problem, the NHS rule that I still need to see a knee triage who would decide on whether I need to see a physio, to decide whether they could refer me for an arthroscopy.

Whose money is being wasted there... mine or the NHS's?
 

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I've not had much reason to use the NHS but it seems to me that in the governments drive to get more people fit there should be better support for sporting injuries.

If your lucky enough to see a GP who has a sporting interest then you'll get much more sympathetic treatment that one who has not. From speaking to others, I would agree with Trinity and say that the actual treatment on the NHS is fine - it's just getting access to it that can be a problem.
 

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SWMBO had exactly the same problem as you Trinity except in her case she has an under active thyroid.

My NHS rants again really relate to access to GP( You have to make an appointment for 7 days after you phone for one...could be dead by then!) and then to consultant/treatment and the administrative/financial nightmare that exists within the NHS.

Surely it is counterproductive to make people wait weeks/months+ to see a consultant or receive treatment. To light touch paper still further the government should be investing in the NHSs and not wasting money on PC issues, illegal wars etc.

Touchwood, I've not needed NHS treatment as yet and do have a private health policy at the moment ....I dread the day I have to rely on the NHS: it's only going to get worse.

There you go Flakey you got me tailwalking!!
 

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I have an under active thyroid too Steve.... but when I was trying to get the medication thyroxine levels correct the GP kept insisting that my dosage was correct and the symptoms that I was experiencing were because I was depressed!

When I tried to argue the case she said that I was refusing help!

So I let her write her little prescription for anti-depressants but I have never take any of them, and when i read the leaflet inside and ant-d box I was shocked at how dangerous the drugs could be, so I was definitely not going to take them.

I now 'self medicate'. I can feel when my thyroxine levels drop too low so I just up my dosage as and when I need to. But I wouldn't, and more importantly shouldn't, need to do that if my doctor was listening to me and prescribed the correct dosage in the first place.
 

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Sorry Trinity..in my eagerness to rant I misread your post!
SWMBO's RA wasn't spotted by GP and this impacts on under active thyroid problems/medication.

Listening is a dying art it would seem!
 

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Money is not the BIG problem in the NHS, management is. I think Trinity's surgery highlight this, it sounds quite horrendous. I do think, however, the triage system sounds good IF it is managed well.

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But if more money was available there could be more hospitals kept open/built, more staff employed etc.
Management would no doubt still do its best to screw up I agree.
 

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Whenever I've needed something hospital wise I've always found the NHS to be very good. A & E, fracture clinics, Occupational therapy, splints etc... (I've broken a few bones in my time.

We had a major problem one time when we all went to see my gf's late father and they'd "forgotten" to tell us he'd caught MRSA whilst in there, and we'd gone straight from the hospital to see my sis, bro in law and her young children :eek:

Also GP wise for standard things like asthma/hay fever again no problems. Diagnosis for anything a bit different though from a GP seems near on impossible!

I'm also going through the horrendous task of changing surgeries because of a move. Last time I did it, no problem. This time I can't join until I have a consultation with a practice nurse, yet the waiting list is about 3 weeks long. I can't see a doctor until I've joined, and had a consultation with a practice nurse. I'm fine, all I need is to get registered and get a repeat prescription sorted for my inhalers, it's ridiculous that I need 2 appointments (2 mornings off work as I work an hour away from home) just for someone to tell me what I've known has been a problem for 25 years, and they will prescribe the same as every other doctor/asthma nurse I've seen!
 

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this time last year i found a lump in my breast i went to see my GP who actually rang through to my hospital breast clinic for an immediate appointment as she didnt like the feel of it, thought it was a bit suss, ( I had had part of the neck of my womb removed with cancer some years before, and also have breast cancer in my family so i was obviosly worried senseless) anywa i got in to my hosital within a few days which was fantastic, the consultant I saw was unbelievable absolutely wonderful, I passed out when they took the biopsy (fear of needles and also just built up tension i think) anyway when i cme around he was sat by my side with the nurse next to him, he had covered me up and had a glass of water waiting, he joked with me that he doesnt often have that effect on ladies, which i thought was so lovely of him. I couldnt knock him for anything he was a credit to the NHS, the only problem I had was that the labs were closing for christmas and so I had to wait 02 weeks for my results, which was hell.
 
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