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Do you eat Organic?

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Well I have been eating organic for years now and I swear by it. I have had less colds, less illness and when I do need to take any meds they work much better i.e. headache tablets.

So, my question is, do you eat Organic? It just makes sense to me, your looking after your body by running but are you looking after yourself by what you eat?

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I find there's a taste difference, specifically with veg. I used to eat carrots all the time when I was a kid (when my parents grew their own veg) but then stopped eating them so much when we were buying them. I thought I just didn't like them anymore until I moved into a shared communal house. My housemates buy organic and I found that I liked the carrots (although still not as much as homegrown ones). That's just one example.

I try to avoid buying veg from supermarkets though. I don't trust even their organic veg.
 

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I'm more into produce being local that organic, but I get a veg box every couple of weeks which is all organic and tastes waaaaaaaaay better than supermarket stuff. This week my carrots arrived muddy with lovely green tops on them - perfect! It also means I've tried lots of exciting new things I'd never have dreamed of buying otherwise.

Always buy freerange chicken and British meat, and don't usually eat meat out because I don't know where it's come from. My favourite pub lists all the producers on the menu, so I make an exception there.
 

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*jumps on his soap box* :)

When I lived on Tiree we ate 90% local produce, beef, lamb, veggies and it was brilliant. I still haven’t tasted anything as good as Tiree beef or lamb is amazing. I can tell when it’s not Tiree beef on my plate! This wasn’t organic but it was as close as you can get without it being certified.
I then went to uni and bought cheap, 50 sausages for £1 from Farmfoods and things like that. You think your saving money but really, you’re not saving anything. On closer examination the beef content of a 2p sausage is scary and the number of additives that are in it is even scarier.
My better halves sister own an Organic farm and to be honest, when we first visited it I was of the common thoughts of, this is a waste of money and they are just cashing in on the richer people but then I started to listen to what happens to non-organic foods or what is sprayed on to and injected in to veg and meats.
The veg are frequently sprayed with pesticide to kill any bugs that are trying to eat the crops, in turn the veg also absorb this pesticide, you then eat this veg and you are also eating the pesticide.
Your body builds a store of antibiotic from the meat which you eat, you then get a cold or flu and wonder why the antibiotics your doc has given you aren’t working as well as they should, it’s because your body has already got a store in it and the bug has built up a semi-resistance to it. How can the supermarkets have 100s of chickens on sale all weighing 5kg? Nature doesn’t make chickens or any other animal an exact weight or size but according to the supermarkets they are, this is achieved by pumping the product full of water and other additives to make it have the same weight as everything else and also be the shape they require! Every carrot must be the same size; every egg must fit in to the box. It’s crazy.
The animals are also pumped full of antibiotics and medicines to keep them "healthy" which is then passed to us when we eat them.

Taste, in my mind, Organic and free range produce always tastes much better as well. I can tell the different between an organic banana (for example) and a non-organic banana, I can taste the tinny taste from the chemicals that the banana has been sprayed in.

The price is a common argument for non buying organic but to be honest, organic shouldn’t be a brand, it’s the most natural way to buy food, it’s the way food should be, non-organic should be branded as fake food. The price you pay for organic food is the proper price, the price you pay for anything else is the super markets supplying the masses and trying to fool people in to thinking they are getting a bargain because you can get 50 sausages for £1. You pay for what you get.
One of the reasons Organic food is more expensive is because it is more labour intensive, all the weeds in the fields are hand picked rather than using a tractor to spray weed killer, the animal feed is more expensive because its not made from chemicals and additives so this in turn makes meat more expensive.

So yes, organic food is a wee bit dearer but I prefer to pay a bit more and know my body is as chemical free as possible than pay less and be putting unknown chemicals in to my system.

*jumps down from his soap box* :)

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*jumps on his soap box* :)

When I lived on Tiree we ate 90% local produce, beef, lamb, veggies and it was brilliant. I still haven’t tasted anything as good as Tiree beef or lamb is amazing. I can tell when it’s not Tiree beef on my plate! This wasn’t organic but it was as close as you can get without it being certified.
I then went to uni and bought cheap, 50 sausages for £1 from Farmfoods and things like that. You think your saving money but really, you’re not saving anything. On closer examination the beef content of a 2p sausage is scary and the number of additives that are in it is even scarier.
My better halves sister own an Organic farm and to be honest, when we first visited it I was of the common thoughts of, this is a waste of money and they are just cashing in on the richer people but then I started to listen to what happens to non-organic foods or what is sprayed on to and injected in to veg and meats.
The veg are frequently sprayed with pesticide to kill any bugs that are trying to eat the crops, in turn the veg also absorb this pesticide, you then eat this veg and you are also eating the pesticide.
Your body builds a store of antibiotic from the meat which you eat, you then get a cold or flu and wonder why the antibiotics your doc has given you aren’t working as well as they should, it’s because your body has already got a store in it and the bug has built up a semi-resistance to it. How can the supermarkets have 100s of chickens on sale all weighing 5kg? Nature doesn’t make chickens or any other animal an exact weight or size but according to the supermarkets they are, this is achieved by pumping the product full of water and other additives to make it have the same weight as everything else and also be the shape they require! Every carrot must be the same size; every egg must fit in to the box. It’s crazy.
The animals are also pumped full of antibiotics and medicines to keep them "healthy" which is then passed to us when we eat them.

Taste, in my mind, Organic and free range produce always tastes much better as well. I can tell the different between an organic banana (for example) and a non-organic banana, I can taste the tinny taste from the chemicals that the banana has been sprayed in.

The price is a common argument for non buying organic but to be honest, organic shouldn’t be a brand, it’s the most natural way to buy food, it’s the way food should be, non-organic should be branded as fake food. The price you pay for organic food is the proper price, the price you pay for anything else is the super markets supplying the masses and trying to fool people in to thinking they are getting a bargain because you can get 50 sausages for £1. You pay for what you get.
One of the reasons Organic food is more expensive is because it is more labour intensive, all the weeds in the fields are hand picked rather than using a tractor to spray weed killer, the animal feed is more expensive because its not made from chemicals and additives so this in turn makes meat more expensive.

So yes, organic food is a wee bit dearer but I prefer to pay a bit more and know my body is as chemical free as possible than pay less and be putting unknown chemicals in to my system.

*jumps down from his soap box* :)

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Thanks but I prefer to see animals alive than sliced up or made into sausages... organic or not.. But lets please not enter into that debate coz it upsets me.
Suffice to say I don't need to worry about buying organic animals

As for fruit and veg, I buy organic if I can afford it, but more often than not I simply can't. Single parent, three kids...two teenagers at home and one at Uni, relatively low paid job, many fees to pay, means I have an extremely tight food budget.

In an ideal world I would buy organic everything...but times is hard and we have to make the best with what we have.

Oh, and about the antibiotic debate... I don't take them, I use alternative medicine/therapies and I'm very rarely ill
 

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Im the same Trinity, if Im ill I tend to let my body try and beat it off first. Since I'm not ill that often I don't mind having to take a day off work or something else to let my body beat what ever is getting me down, I don't like taking tablets and things like that if I can take something else i.e. Orange Juice and Echinacea :)

The meat thing is a seperate debate but thought I would mention it as it comes in to my original question about Organic or not.

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Interesting soap box you've got there Owain! Well shift over, I reckon I could squeeze on there with you...
I'm with you on most of it. I grow my own, on my allotment, and I don't see the need to use pesticides etc either. It definitely tastes far, far superior to supermarket veg. Cook parsnips from the supermarket and you end up with white pulp. Cook fresh and the fragrance fills the kitchen - its like a different vegetable.
Also I remember pulling my first crop of carrots a couple of years ago and the most surprising thing to me was returning to them after a couple of days in the fridge to find them limp and floppy. And yet supermarket carrots are still solid after five or more days... hm, so what the hell do they pump their veg full of? (Viagra maybe...?:lol:)

But, there is a counter argument. My carrots failed this year, riddled with carrot-fly. Galling, but not a disaster. I just go elsewhere and buy some. But if that happens to a farmer, well, that's his livelihood, isn't it. In a sense I'm just playing at it, then the good old consumer society is bailing me out when it all goes pear shaped. But the farmer doesn't have that luxury. So I can see the problem.

I also work in the food industry, and I see what happens and how massive amounts of non-organic stuff is 'hidden' in commonplace foods. Foods that loads of us eat on a regular basis, silly things like ketchup, biscuits etc. without a second thought.

I don't know the answer to be honest. I count myself lucky that I'm solvent enough and time-rich enough to be able to buy, cook and eat very well.
(I like the sound of that Tiree beef!)
 

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Hmm,

Got to back Trin up here, in an ideal world I would either: buy all organic or: grow my own.

To cover grow my own, what with work, running, looking after Mrs Hrun, this is a non starter.

So, to buy all: Our budget is overstretched without kids (fair play Trin) So until I can buy Organic without paying a premium it is not going to happen. And I would say we are pretty reprsentative of the population.
 

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But the thing is, if more people bought organic then the price would drop. Its a catch 22 situation.

Dave has a good point, if a crop fails for an organic farmer then its a nightmare, non-organic vegetables have a much higher sucess rate because they use the sprays to kill bugs and things. This again adds to the cost of Organic food because they have to cover for the percentage that does fail.

One thing I like about grow your own / organic food is the different shapes the veg produce, not evey carrot is straight and some of the tatties I have picked are huge!! :)

I totally understand where people are coming from and Im not here trying to tell you to eat/buy organic :) I was just interested to hear how many people do or don't.

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Your body builds a store of antibiotic from the meat which you eat, you then get a cold or flu and wonder why the antibiotics your doc has given you aren’t working as well as they should, it’s because your body has already got a store in it and the bug has built up a semi-resistance to it.
By all means have a rant, but I wouldn't go as far as scaremongering on things like a common cold. I was under the impression that colds anf flu's were viral infections - and as such something that would not be responsive to antibiotics. So yes it makes a nice attention grabbing statement - but unfortunately it simply isn't true!
 

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Where it comes to price, I don't buy organic veg from the supermarket for the most part.

However, my veg box is £13 for seven types of vegetable and three types of fruit. This equates to a huge amount because you get far more than one of each kind. Had I gone to the supermarket, even if their veg had been cheaper, I'd have bought loads of stuff I didn't need and gone over £13.

Just me though, I'm still working on the self control :p
 

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By all means have a rant, but I wouldn't go as far as scaremongering on things like a common cold. I was under the impression that colds anf flu's were viral infections - and as such something that would not be responsive to antibiotics. So yes it makes a nice attention grabbing statement - but unfortunately it simply isn't true!
Sorry, didnt mean to "scaremonger", you are correct the cold isnt bothered by antibiotics (as far as I am aware). Bad examples I guess, ear infections and flu? How does that sound :)



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I eat as much organic as I can, and I also try to buy local (The local stuff is much cheaper!)

I'm also a pescatarian, which is basically a vegetarian but I do (very occasionally) include fish in my diet.
 

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Where it comes to price, I don't buy organic veg from the supermarket for the most part.

However, my veg box is £13 for seven types of vegetable and three types of fruit. This equates to a huge amount because you get far more than one of each kind.
This sort of buying is getting more common, isn't it, which can only be a good thing. I've just ordered a box of lamb online to split with a mate of mine from this guy Buy lamb online: Buy mutton online - lamb chops, leg of lamb and lamb recipes, mutton chops, leg mutton, mutton recipes
The greedy supermarkets don't get a look in, the farmer gets his cash and the customer gets a good quality product.
 

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I eat mostly organic or free range, although if the choice comes down to good quality local food produced by farmers/growers who care about what they're doing, vs organic from some far flung part of the world, I'll go local every time.

I get most of my veg from a weekly veg box, which is sometimes local but not necessarily organic, and sometimes organic (it depends on what's available at different times of the year).

Meat comes either from quality local suppliers at the farmers' market (or from the veg box supplier) or is free range or organic from the supermarket. Fish is always farmed or sustainably fished, and mostly from the same people I get my veg box from (they're called Ethical Foods, so everything is sustainable, welfare friendly, etc, etc, even when it's not organic).
 

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Ye its amazing how much better stuff really does taste when its truelly fresh. Some of the stuff which is in supermarkets is fresh when its lifted out the ground but then clocks up hundreds of miles travelling around the country and then it might sit in their main depot waiting to be shipped to your local shop for another 24 hours, not exactly fresh.
I noticed Tesco tried to offer an Organic box which had a mixture of items in it but the stupid thing was, they had priced it all wrong and if you worked out what was in the box you could actually buy it cheaper individually and pick the best of the bunch yourself. Out of interest we did buy one of the boxes to see what was in it and it was pretty poor, 3 small tatties, some carrots, a large cauliflower (which added weight to the box to make you think you were getting more than you did), 4 carrots I think and some other stuff which had seen better days. A couple of days later they were all reduced, I havent seen them in the shops since.
We tend not to buy veggies from the supermarkets now mind you, my better half works in a farm shop / bistro so we get all fresh veg from there which isnt all organic but its fresh and local. :)
It's almost the time of year when pots of soup are required!

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